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Hermocrates (dialogue)

Hermocrates (dialogue) is a science topic covered in the lgStudy science library. This page brings together a partial reference excerpt, illustrations, worked examples, real-world applications and a short study plan, so you can understand Hermocrates (dialogue) rather than just read about it. In short: Hermocrates (; Greek: Ἑρμοκράτης, romanized: Hermokrátēs) is a hypothetical dialogue, assumed to be the third part of Plato's late trilogy along with Timaeus and Critias. It is not known exactly how Critias ended, as the ending to the book is currently lost, so historians have not been able to say exactly how Hermocrates would begin.

Key takeaways

  • Hermocrates (dialogue) belongs to science; place it in that map before memorising details.
  • Learn the definition first, then one example that makes the definition concrete.
  • Connect Hermocrates (dialogue) to a quantity you can measure, compute or draw — that is where exam questions come from.
  • Reproduce the core statement of Hermocrates (dialogue) from memory before moving on to harder problems.

Reference excerpt

Hermocrates (; Greek: Ἑρμοκράτης, romanized: Hermokrátēs) is a hypothetical dialogue, assumed to be the third part of Plato's late trilogy along with Timaeus and Critias. It is not known exactly how Critias ended, as the ending to the book is currently lost, so historians have not been able to say exactly how Hermocrates would begin. In any case, the people that would have appeared are very likely to be the same as in the former dialogues – Timaeus, Critias, Hermocrates, and Socrates – and the unnamed companion mentioned at the beginning of the Timaeus might have unveiled his identity. The intention of Plato to write this third dialogue becomes evident among others, from the following passage of Critias:

Socrates: Certainly, Critias, we will grant your request [to speak] and we will grant the same by anticipation to Hermocrates, as well as to you and Timaeus. Hermocrates had only a small share of the conversation in the previous dialogues. Since the Critias recounted the story of the ideal state in ancient Athens of nine thousand years ago – and why it was able to repel the invasion by the imperialist naval power Atlantis – by referring to prehistoric accounts via Solon and the Egyptians, it might have been Hermocrates' task to tell how the imperialist naval power, into which Athens of Plato's lifetime had turned, had suffered a bitter defeat in the Sicilian expedition against Syracuse and eventually in the Peloponnesian War against Sparta – since he was a Syracusan strategos during the time of the Sicilian expedition. The sequence of names of the three participants in these dialogues could also have a significance. The name of Timaeus is derived from the Greek word τιμάω, timaō meaning to pay honor to; the name of Critias is derived from the word κρίσις, krisis meaning judgment; and the name of Hermocrates, means gifted by Hermes, messenger of the gods.

In popular culture In the video game Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis the Lost Dialogue of Plato is known as the Hermocrates. In the game, the book survived in Arabic translation, and was translated to English by one of the characters, and acts as an important tool for Dr. Jones throughout the game. Its contents, however, are about the location of Atlantis, entry to the city, and notes about its inhabitants and culture.

Notes

References Clay, Diskin (1997). "The Plan of Plato's Critias". In Calvo, Tomás; Brisson, Luc (eds.). Interpreting the Timaeus-Critias. International Plato Studies. Vol. 9. Sankt Augustin: Academia. pp. 49–54. ISBN 3-89665-004-1. Eberz, J. (1910). "Die Bestimmung der von Platon entworfenen Trilogie Timaios, Kritias, Hermokrates". Philologus. 69: 40–50. doi:10.1515/phil-1910-0107. ISSN 0031-7985. S2CID 164681267. Forsyth, Phyllis Young (1980). Atlantis: The Making of Myth. Montréal: McGill-Queens Univ. Press. ISBN 0-7099-1000-2.

Worked examples

Example 1 — a first encounter with Hermocrates (dialogue)

Start with the simplest possible case. Write down what Hermocrates (dialogue) claims or describes in one sentence, then invent the smallest concrete situation in which that sentence is true. In science, the smallest case is usually a single object, a single equation or a single measurement. Check that every symbol or term in your sentence has a meaning in that case.

Example 2 — changing one variable

Take the situation from Example 1 and change exactly one quantity: double it, halve it, or set it to zero. Predict what should happen to Hermocrates (dialogue) before you calculate. Comparing your prediction with the result is the fastest way to find out whether you understand the idea or only the words.

Example 3 — an exam-style question

Typical questions about Hermocrates (dialogue) ask you to (a) state it precisely, (b) apply it to given data, and (c) explain a limitation. Practise writing all three answers in under five minutes; the third part is what separates a full-mark answer from an average one.

Applications of Hermocrates (dialogue)

In research
Hermocrates (dialogue) appears in science research whenever the underlying quantities have to be modelled precisely. Papers usually cite it as a starting assumption and then explore where it breaks down.
In technology and industry
Engineering practice reuses Hermocrates (dialogue) in design rules, simulations and safety margins. Knowing the idea lets you read a specification sheet and understand why the numbers look the way they do.
In the classroom
Hermocrates (dialogue) is common in secondary-school and first-year university syllabi. It links to neighbouring topics Books about Atlantis, Dialogues of Plato, Hypothetical documents, so understanding it makes those chapters shorter.
In everyday life
Look for Hermocrates (dialogue) outside the textbook — in sport, cooking, traffic, electronics or the sky above you. An example you found yourself is remembered far longer than one you were given.
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How to study Hermocrates (dialogue) in 20 minutes

  1. Read the reference excerpt below once, without taking notes.
  2. Close the page and write down what Hermocrates (dialogue) means in your own words.
  3. Compare your version with the excerpt and mark what you missed.
  4. Work through the three examples above with pen and paper.
  5. Explain Hermocrates (dialogue) out loud to somebody else — or to Teacher Smith in the lgStudy chat.

Frequently asked questions

What is Hermocrates (dialogue) in simple terms?

Hermocrates (; Greek: Ἑρμοκράτης, romanized: Hermokrátēs) is a hypothetical dialogue, assumed to be the third part of Plato's late trilogy along with Timaeus and Critias. It is not known exactly how Critias ended, as the ending to the book is currently lost, so historians have not been able to say…

Why does Hermocrates (dialogue) matter?

Because it connects several science ideas at once: it gives you a definition you can apply, a quantity you can calculate, and a way to check whether a result is plausible.

How should I study Hermocrates (dialogue)?

Read the excerpt, restate it from memory, then work through the examples and applications listed on this page. The five-step study plan above takes about twenty minutes.

What does this page cover?

It gives you a compact reference excerpt plus original lgStudy explanations, examples, applications and study material on Hermocrates (dialogue).

Tags

  • Books about Atlantis
  • Dialogues of Plato
  • Hypothetical documents

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