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Stealing thunder

Stealing thunder is a science topic covered in the lgStudy science library. This page brings together a partial reference excerpt, illustrations, worked examples, real-world applications and a short study plan, so you can understand Stealing thunder rather than just read about it. In short: Stealing thunder is to use someone else's idea for one's own advantage, or to pre-empt them. Origin The idiom comes from the dramatist John Dennis early in the 18th century, after he had conceived a novel idea for a thunder machine for his unsuccessful 1709 play Appius and Virginia and later found it used at a performance of Macbeth.

Stealing thunder — main illustration
Stealing thunder — illustration

Key takeaways

  • Stealing thunder belongs to science; place it in that map before memorising details.
  • Learn the definition first, then one example that makes the definition concrete.
  • Connect Stealing thunder to a quantity you can measure, compute or draw — that is where exam questions come from.
  • Reproduce the core statement of Stealing thunder from memory before moving on to harder problems.

Reference excerpt

Stealing thunder is to use someone else's idea for one's own advantage, or to pre-empt them.

Origin The idiom comes from the dramatist John Dennis early in the 18th century, after he had conceived a novel idea for a thunder machine for his unsuccessful 1709 play Appius and Virginia and later found it used at a performance of Macbeth. There is an account of the incident in The Lives of the Poets of Great Britain and Ireland by Robert Shiels and Theophilus Cibber:Mr Dennis happened once to go to the play, when a tragedy was acted, in which the machinery of thunder was introduced, a new artificial method of producing which he had formerly communicated to the managers. Incensed by this circumstance, he cried out in a transport of resentment, "That is my thunder, by God; the villains will play my thunder, but not my plays." A more accepted version, written by William Shepard Walsh who quoted Joseph Spence, is that the saying came after a performance of Macbeth:“Damn them!” he cried, rising in a violent passion, “they will not let my play run, but they steal my thunder!”" Etymologists have theorized that the phrase may have connected to the stealing of thunder from the Roman god, Jupiter, and that the usage of the saying was common in theater settings before the Dennis attribution. The first noted use of the phrase outside of the theater, in print form and used in the known sense, was traced back to the early 19th century.

Rhetorical use In a contentious situation, such as a court case, a political debate or a public relations crisis, it is a tactic used to weaken the force of an adverse point. By introducing the point first and being open about it or rebutting it, the force of the opposition's argument is diminished – their thunder is stolen. The opposite strategy, whereby one party discloses information that seems advantageous to the opponent’s case, before the latter elicits or reveals it, to weaken its force, has been termed "stealing sunshine".

References

Illustrations

Stealing thunder: The thunder machine in the Auditorium Theatre.  The taking of the idea for such a mechanism is the origin of the concept.
The thunder machine in the Auditorium Theatre. The taking of the idea for such a mechanism is the origin of the concept.

Worked examples

Example 1 — a first encounter with Stealing thunder

Start with the simplest possible case. Write down what Stealing thunder claims or describes in one sentence, then invent the smallest concrete situation in which that sentence is true. In science, the smallest case is usually a single object, a single equation or a single measurement. Check that every symbol or term in your sentence has a meaning in that case.

Example 2 — changing one variable

Take the situation from Example 1 and change exactly one quantity: double it, halve it, or set it to zero. Predict what should happen to Stealing thunder before you calculate. Comparing your prediction with the result is the fastest way to find out whether you understand the idea or only the words.

Example 3 — an exam-style question

Typical questions about Stealing thunder ask you to (a) state it precisely, (b) apply it to given data, and (c) explain a limitation. Practise writing all three answers in under five minutes; the third part is what separates a full-mark answer from an average one.

Applications of Stealing thunder

In research
Stealing thunder appears in science research whenever the underlying quantities have to be modelled precisely. Papers usually cite it as a starting assumption and then explore where it breaks down.
In technology and industry
Engineering practice reuses Stealing thunder in design rules, simulations and safety margins. Knowing the idea lets you read a specification sheet and understand why the numbers look the way they do.
In the classroom
Stealing thunder is common in secondary-school and first-year university syllabi. It links to neighbouring topics Plagiarism, Public relations terminology, Rhetoric, so understanding it makes those chapters shorter.
In everyday life
Look for Stealing thunder outside the textbook — in sport, cooking, traffic, electronics or the sky above you. An example you found yourself is remembered far longer than one you were given.
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How to study Stealing thunder in 20 minutes

  1. Read the reference excerpt below once, without taking notes.
  2. Close the page and write down what Stealing thunder means in your own words.
  3. Compare your version with the excerpt and mark what you missed.
  4. Work through the three examples above with pen and paper.
  5. Explain Stealing thunder out loud to somebody else — or to Teacher Smith in the lgStudy chat.

Frequently asked questions

What is Stealing thunder in simple terms?

Stealing thunder is to use someone else's idea for one's own advantage, or to pre-empt them. Origin The idiom comes from the dramatist John Dennis early in the 18th century, after he had conceived a novel idea for a thunder machine for his unsuccessful 1709 play Appius and Virginia and later found…

Why does Stealing thunder matter?

Because it connects several science ideas at once: it gives you a definition you can apply, a quantity you can calculate, and a way to check whether a result is plausible.

How should I study Stealing thunder?

Read the excerpt, restate it from memory, then work through the examples and applications listed on this page. The five-step study plan above takes about twenty minutes.

What does this page cover?

It gives you a compact reference excerpt plus original lgStudy explanations, examples, applications and study material on Stealing thunder.

Tags

  • Plagiarism
  • Public relations terminology
  • Rhetoric
  • Theatre stubs
  • Vocabulary and usage stubs

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